Comments on: No future for libraries? http://commonplace.net/2009/05/no-future-for-libraries/ Library2.0 and beyond Mon, 20 Feb 2012 04:30:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Education Degree http://commonplace.net/2009/05/no-future-for-libraries/comment-page-1/#comment-18123 Education Degree Mon, 16 Aug 2010 15:32:03 +0000 http://commonplace.net/?p=536#comment-18123 What is the cost for a subscription to the Journal of Web Analytics? I am an Associate Professor at the University of Boston. What is the cost for a subscription to the Journal of Web Analytics? I am an Associate Professor at the University of Boston.

]]> By: Aditya http://commonplace.net/2009/05/no-future-for-libraries/comment-page-1/#comment-8700 Aditya Mon, 01 Mar 2010 14:42:40 +0000 http://commonplace.net/?p=536#comment-8700 Nice insights, I beg to differ on the aspect of the physical buildings loosing importance. Architects (like rem koolhaas) would describe libraries as the only 'free public space' left to us. Especially for children and youngsters it is a safe zone at a local community level. I am actually working on figuring out how the library space would look like in light of all the digitisation. This is for my MSc. thesis project in 'user experience design'. I have started a blog to document my thoughts - http://librarymine.wordpress.com. ~Aditya TUDelft,Delft,NL Nice insights,
I beg to differ on the aspect of the physical buildings loosing importance. Architects (like rem koolhaas) would describe libraries as the only ‘free public space’ left to us. Especially for children and youngsters it is a safe zone at a local community level.
I am actually working on figuring out how the library space would look like in light of all the digitisation. This is for my MSc. thesis project in ‘user experience design’. I have started a blog to document my thoughts – http://librarymine.wordpress.com.

~Aditya
TUDelft,Delft,NL

]]> By: Peter Kuipers http://commonplace.net/2009/05/no-future-for-libraries/comment-page-1/#comment-2814 Peter Kuipers Wed, 12 Aug 2009 14:15:10 +0000 http://commonplace.net/?p=536#comment-2814 If you like it or not, most people (in particular digital natives: http://www.bl.uk/news/pdf/googlegen.pdf) Google first to get information. Indeed, Michel Wesseling, we should concentrate on integrating information literacy into the curriculum trhoughout courses on each level and integrated with the topics treated. In a mixed media world knowledge about how information is processed is crusial to interpret messages correct. Teachers should know that, but librarians too. Librarians should not only become experts in “Googlen”, including SEO and Google’s ranking system, but also should they become more aware of the interests of stakeholders of mediamessages (for instance the use of Google and socialmedia in journalism or the impact of blogging on professional knowledge). If you like it or not, most people (in particular digital natives: http://www.bl.uk/news/pdf/googlegen.pdf) Google first to get information.
Indeed, Michel Wesseling, we should concentrate on integrating information literacy into the curriculum trhoughout courses on each level and integrated with the topics treated. In a mixed media world knowledge about how information is processed is crusial to interpret messages correct. Teachers should know that, but librarians too. Librarians should not only become experts in “Googlen”, including SEO and Google’s ranking system, but also should they become more aware of the interests of stakeholders of mediamessages (for instance the use of Google and socialmedia in journalism or the impact of blogging on professional knowledge).

]]> By: Jan http://commonplace.net/2009/05/no-future-for-libraries/comment-page-1/#comment-2437 Jan Sat, 04 Jul 2009 06:10:26 +0000 http://commonplace.net/?p=536#comment-2437 I like the idea of tribes of expert librarians engaging in public conversations. We need to concentrate on the development of expert tribes regardless of organisational or geographical boundaries. Library buildings actually do matter. There is a growing amount of youngsters doing their homework in the library using it as a pleasant, safe and rich space to meet and study collaboratively. Collections don't matter but sharing knowledge and information really does. I like the idea of tribes of expert librarians engaging in public conversations. We need to concentrate on the development of expert tribes regardless of organisational or geographical boundaries. Library buildings actually do matter. There is a growing amount of youngsters doing their homework in the library using it as a pleasant, safe and rich space to meet and study collaboratively. Collections don’t matter but sharing knowledge and information really does.

]]> By: Michel Wesseling http://commonplace.net/2009/05/no-future-for-libraries/comment-page-1/#comment-2329 Michel Wesseling Wed, 24 Jun 2009 06:24:09 +0000 http://commonplace.net/?p=536#comment-2329 Gelukkig is minister Plasterk creatief en wil de oude media behouden ten koste van de nieuwe. Misschien kunnen we vragen of hij op alle Google, Yahoo, Bing, WorldCat, OAISTER, DOAJ en andere bibliotheekbedreigende zoekacties een heffing regelt ten behoeve van het behoud van de bibliotheken. Fokke en Sukke staan er ook volledig achter: http://www.mobypicture.com/user/Therealfoksuk/view/296991 Gelukkig is minister Plasterk creatief en wil de oude media behouden ten koste van de nieuwe. Misschien kunnen we vragen of hij op alle Google, Yahoo, Bing, WorldCat, OAISTER, DOAJ en andere bibliotheekbedreigende zoekacties een heffing regelt ten behoeve van het behoud van de bibliotheken. Fokke en Sukke staan er ook volledig achter: http://www.mobypicture.com/user/Therealfoksuk/view/296991

]]> By: Michel Wesseling http://commonplace.net/2009/05/no-future-for-libraries/comment-page-1/#comment-2328 Michel Wesseling Wed, 24 Jun 2009 04:02:07 +0000 http://commonplace.net/?p=536#comment-2328 I fully support this discussion and it complies with how we are approaching this theme in our insitutes library (www.iss.nl/library). Who would argue that the future of librarianship lies in the professionalism of the librarians and not in the building nor collections? But are we able to make the change? Can we stop doing what we do, shift our activities from our traditional work (forget about cataloguing in a local system, rely on WorldCat as a primary search engine) and use the ILS for admin purposes only (for so long as we need it). We should concentrate on integrating information literacy into the curriculum, not just in an introductory session, but trhoughout the courses and integrated with the topics treated. I strongly belief that an important task lies with us: not so much in teaching people how to search (this was necessary in the days that information was scarce) but in teaching them how to find the best information, evaluate search results, as their number will only increase in the future. Let's continue this discussion. I came across this blog via http://www.gerardbierens.nl/index.php/blog/reacties/de-fysieke-bibliotheekcollectie-versus-digitale-content-samen-of-apart/ I fully support this discussion and it complies with how we are approaching this theme in our insitutes library (www.iss.nl/library).
Who would argue that the future of librarianship lies in the professionalism of the librarians and not in the building nor collections? But are we able to make the change? Can we stop doing what we do, shift our activities from our traditional work (forget about cataloguing in a local system, rely on WorldCat as a primary search engine) and use the ILS for admin purposes only (for so long as we need it).
We should concentrate on integrating information literacy into the curriculum, not just in an introductory session, but trhoughout the courses and integrated with the topics treated.
I strongly belief that an important task lies with us: not so much in teaching people how to search (this was necessary in the days that information was scarce) but in teaching them how to find the best information, evaluate search results, as their number will only increase in the future.
Let’s continue this discussion. I came across this blog via http://www.gerardbierens.nl/index.php/blog/reacties/de-fysieke-bibliotheekcollectie-versus-digitale-content-samen-of-apart/

]]> By: Google bibliotheken en twitter overzicht mei 2009 « Dee’tjes http://commonplace.net/2009/05/no-future-for-libraries/comment-page-1/#comment-2238 Google bibliotheken en twitter overzicht mei 2009 « Dee’tjes Sun, 31 May 2009 20:06:11 +0000 http://commonplace.net/?p=536#comment-2238 [...] die zit. … no future for libraries? vraagt Lukask zich dan ook af en verder gaat het in de bibliotheekwereld steeds slechter:  in [...] [...] die zit. … no future for libraries? vraagt Lukask zich dan ook af en verder gaat het in de bibliotheekwereld steeds slechter:  in [...]

]]> By: Janneke http://commonplace.net/2009/05/no-future-for-libraries/comment-page-1/#comment-2222 Janneke Tue, 26 May 2009 13:01:12 +0000 http://commonplace.net/?p=536#comment-2222 Hey lukas, Hmm.. I can tell you what the library was in my view when I was a scientist/student. - You are the people that pay the bills so that I can view the content of journals. - I did not really read books (psychology student) but at the rare times that i did; I dont like reading from a screen. Printing out a journal article is one thing, but when i comes to books I still prefer paper. - it is a great place to study (when i was a student), no fungus, no noisy roommates. - i did like bibliographies. Google is unsurpassed when you know what you want, but e.g. psycinfo restricts its results and yields less grey literature (although I must admit, google scholar is getting better every day) Now that I am a librarian, I am surprised at what those librarians know and how much it would have made my life as a scientist easier (especially the medical librarians). Who knew, searching for information is a science on its own with sensitivity, specificity, research methods etc. If only I had known.. Hey lukas,

Hmm.. I can tell you what the library was in my view when I was a scientist/student.

- You are the people that pay the bills so that I can view the content of journals.
- I did not really read books (psychology student) but at the rare times that i did; I dont like reading from a screen. Printing out a journal article is one thing, but when i comes to books I still prefer paper.
- it is a great place to study (when i was a student), no fungus, no noisy roommates.
- i did like bibliographies. Google is unsurpassed when you know what you want, but e.g. psycinfo restricts its results and yields less grey literature (although I must admit, google scholar is getting better every day)

Now that I am a librarian, I am surprised at what those librarians know and how much it would have made my life as a scientist easier (especially the medical librarians). Who knew, searching for information is a science on its own with sensitivity, specificity, research methods etc. If only I had known..

]]> By: Peter van Boheemen http://commonplace.net/2009/05/no-future-for-libraries/comment-page-1/#comment-2221 Peter van Boheemen Tue, 26 May 2009 12:03:05 +0000 http://commonplace.net/?p=536#comment-2221 Over here the physical library is mainly used as a nice and quiet place to study. The physical library is still an important place though. I am surprised to see the number of people in for example the public library of Nijmegen or Amsterdam. Collections will be unimportant since everybody will have access to everything so the goal will be to assist people in identifying the right things. For academic and research library there will be a task to give access and promote the outpu of their staff. Thi smay be one of th emore important future tasks of academic libraries. So libraries are dead ! Long live the library ! Over here the physical library is mainly used as a nice and quiet place to study. The physical library is still an important place though. I am surprised to see the number of people in for example the public library of Nijmegen or Amsterdam.

Collections will be unimportant since everybody will have access to everything so the goal will be to assist people in identifying the right things.

For academic and research library there will be a task to give access and promote the outpu of their staff. Thi smay be one of th emore important future tasks of academic libraries.

So libraries are dead ! Long live the library !

]]> By: Edwin http://commonplace.net/2009/05/no-future-for-libraries/comment-page-1/#comment-2220 Edwin Mon, 25 May 2009 19:37:06 +0000 http://commonplace.net/?p=536#comment-2220 If we manage to be truly open (people as well as our software and buildings)we still have many chances. We are many... If we manage to be truly open (people as well as our software and buildings)we still have many chances.

We are many…

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